leekohler
Apr 7, 01:56 PM
It can cause a lot of problems when people misinterpret or don't understand it. And lots of modern believers do avoid reading the old testament, especially books of the law like Leviticus and Deuteronomy (because they can be hard to understand).
For me personally, I enjoy reading the narratives of old testament figures like Abraham, David, Joshua, Moses, Solomon, Isaac, etc. etc. These people were far from perfect and much of what we learn from them is in taking note of the mistakes they made. It gives me comfort knowing that if God can use them then he can possibly use me despite the numerous mistakes I make.
Then there are the accounts of people like Job and Joseph. These stories provide such great encouragment as you see how they navigated and overcame such great hardship. Reading their stories provides hope.
Wisdom and poetry books like Psalms and Proverbs are also encouraging and easy to read with their straight forward style and memorable sayings.
I'd encourage everyone to read the Bible. Even if you don't believe it is divinely inspired you can still learn from the collective wisdom of what it contains. It seems that the atheist book the OP started this thread about would contain a good collection of human wisdom and knowledge. I don't know about it being representative of the beliefs of all atheist, but it most likely contains good information from the experiences of those who have gone before us. I would like to think that non-believers could view the Bible in much the same way regardless of whether they believe in God.
Great question lee, thanks for asking. :)
I've read it about sixteen times, thanks. ;)
For me personally, I enjoy reading the narratives of old testament figures like Abraham, David, Joshua, Moses, Solomon, Isaac, etc. etc. These people were far from perfect and much of what we learn from them is in taking note of the mistakes they made. It gives me comfort knowing that if God can use them then he can possibly use me despite the numerous mistakes I make.
Then there are the accounts of people like Job and Joseph. These stories provide such great encouragment as you see how they navigated and overcame such great hardship. Reading their stories provides hope.
Wisdom and poetry books like Psalms and Proverbs are also encouraging and easy to read with their straight forward style and memorable sayings.
I'd encourage everyone to read the Bible. Even if you don't believe it is divinely inspired you can still learn from the collective wisdom of what it contains. It seems that the atheist book the OP started this thread about would contain a good collection of human wisdom and knowledge. I don't know about it being representative of the beliefs of all atheist, but it most likely contains good information from the experiences of those who have gone before us. I would like to think that non-believers could view the Bible in much the same way regardless of whether they believe in God.
Great question lee, thanks for asking. :)
I've read it about sixteen times, thanks. ;)
spicyapple
Oct 15, 03:05 PM
Screw this "beaming it over" nonsense.
Yes, that is a very nerdy/geeky thing to do. "Zune"-ing music wirelessly is only something geeks can come up with, whereas Steve's suggestion of sharing earbuds is so much cooler and, dare I say it, sexually suggestive! ;)
Yes, that is a very nerdy/geeky thing to do. "Zune"-ing music wirelessly is only something geeks can come up with, whereas Steve's suggestion of sharing earbuds is so much cooler and, dare I say it, sexually suggestive! ;)
gugy
Nov 27, 12:19 PM
Not of itself no - but imo a remastered collection will sell millions. How many fans, old and new, will shell out again to hear them?
really? I am skeptical.
Unless like I said a whole package with a very attractive price. Hopefully with a bitrate better than 128.
really? I am skeptical.
Unless like I said a whole package with a very attractive price. Hopefully with a bitrate better than 128.
Detektiv-Pinky
Nov 8, 09:02 AM
i don't know why anyone is complaining that the MB wasn't upgraded to meet the specs of the MBP. we're talking entry level after all, and have to give apple something to justify the price differential to the pro. me, this is just what i was waiting for. c2d with added memory to boot. if i needed more features, graphics, etc., (*and if i could afford it) i'd buy the pro, but i don't. with this upgrade, i can finally retire my performa 6400/g3 sonnet, and have something that will serve me for many years. as soon as the store comes back up, i'm buying.
I am mostly complaining between the mismatch between the 1.83 and the 2.0 model in terms of what 200$ buy (512MB RAM, Double Processor Cache, HD space, Superdrive, Processor Speed).
They should have lowered the price of the 1.83 entry model to reflect how cripled it is. I can not see anybody considering it as a realistic choice.
I am mostly complaining between the mismatch between the 1.83 and the 2.0 model in terms of what 200$ buy (512MB RAM, Double Processor Cache, HD space, Superdrive, Processor Speed).
They should have lowered the price of the 1.83 entry model to reflect how cripled it is. I can not see anybody considering it as a realistic choice.
puckhead193
Apr 13, 06:10 PM
after watching the unofficial video i feel more confident that I will like it. I wish apple would post a video but time will tell. Now new mac pros with the new Final Cut Pro...yes please!
Maxiseller
Sep 12, 05:46 PM
AGREED. 100%. WTF have they done?? I think I'm going to overwrite the new control buttons with the old ones.
For gods sake, what a bunch of whiners.
It's a neat sleek user interface and I really like the changes. It looks less cluttered, and more importantly easier to use. Everything has nice clear spacing - and the move away from Aqua which has been with us forever is NOT a bad thing.
Aqua looks a little outdated now, and I like the fact that Apple are experimenting with new design ideas. I hope iTunes is the template that affects the rest of the OS.
For gods sake, what a bunch of whiners.
It's a neat sleek user interface and I really like the changes. It looks less cluttered, and more importantly easier to use. Everything has nice clear spacing - and the move away from Aqua which has been with us forever is NOT a bad thing.
Aqua looks a little outdated now, and I like the fact that Apple are experimenting with new design ideas. I hope iTunes is the template that affects the rest of the OS.
KingYaba
Mar 14, 10:28 PM
It's not like there's a ton of USB 3 peripherals on the market yet. I could see Apple waiting till the next update on this one.
To call USB 2 "outdated" is kind of ridiculous. A few people have put it on a few computers and there are some peripherals out there. 98% of USB peripherals are still USB 2. Hardly outdated.
The sort of money you put down on a Mac you shouldn't expect anything less than USB 3.0 from here on out. Core 2 Duo in 2010 leaves a lot to be desired.
To call USB 2 "outdated" is kind of ridiculous. A few people have put it on a few computers and there are some peripherals out there. 98% of USB peripherals are still USB 2. Hardly outdated.
The sort of money you put down on a Mac you shouldn't expect anything less than USB 3.0 from here on out. Core 2 Duo in 2010 leaves a lot to be desired.
mandis
Nov 8, 08:05 AM
They are mighty Powerfull and reasonably cheap. I have to admit that i was secretly hoping for an updated GFX chip. I suppose the GMA950 will have to do...
Hmm... where did i put that damn credit card? :D
Hmm... where did i put that damn credit card? :D
japanime
Oct 28, 02:23 AM
'fixed' for me.
ironically the DAY they released the update.my macbook started shutting down intermittingly..
instaleld it..works fine so far.as for the fans..they still go 'nuts' when i run a few videos on youtube..is THAT normal?
like they get pretty loud ugh
The loud fan ISN'T normal, and it's something I've been fighting about with Apple ever since I bought this POS machine a day after they were released. I'm on my second one now (the first one was replaced because it was broken right out of the box), and this one sounds like a jet airplane getting ready for take off, with the turbines winding up and down.
What particularly makes me upset is that we've got two MacBooks in my family, mine and my wife's, and hers is completely silent. When the fan does kick in on her machine, it makes a nice "whoosh" sound of air being pushed, and nothing else. Mine make this whiney noise coming from the fan itself, so loud you can't even heard the "whoosh" of air being moved.
My MacBook has already been in AppleCare once for a fan replacement, as well as the heat-sink replacement. I had hoped this new firmware would slow the darned fan down, but nope--it's still buzzing away like an electric razor.
I've owned five Apple laptops prior to this one (dating back to a PowerBook 520), and this MacBook is by far the worst one of the bunch. Worse even than my "flaming" PowerBook 5300 (which still works and doesn't make a peep).
ironically the DAY they released the update.my macbook started shutting down intermittingly..
instaleld it..works fine so far.as for the fans..they still go 'nuts' when i run a few videos on youtube..is THAT normal?
like they get pretty loud ugh
The loud fan ISN'T normal, and it's something I've been fighting about with Apple ever since I bought this POS machine a day after they were released. I'm on my second one now (the first one was replaced because it was broken right out of the box), and this one sounds like a jet airplane getting ready for take off, with the turbines winding up and down.
What particularly makes me upset is that we've got two MacBooks in my family, mine and my wife's, and hers is completely silent. When the fan does kick in on her machine, it makes a nice "whoosh" sound of air being pushed, and nothing else. Mine make this whiney noise coming from the fan itself, so loud you can't even heard the "whoosh" of air being moved.
My MacBook has already been in AppleCare once for a fan replacement, as well as the heat-sink replacement. I had hoped this new firmware would slow the darned fan down, but nope--it's still buzzing away like an electric razor.
I've owned five Apple laptops prior to this one (dating back to a PowerBook 520), and this MacBook is by far the worst one of the bunch. Worse even than my "flaming" PowerBook 5300 (which still works and doesn't make a peep).
Crath
Mar 12, 09:06 AM
I'm going to put 1 dollar in a jar today, 2 tomorrow, and so on. I think I will be able to get enough in the jar by the time the new MBP comes out...
(its kinda exponential, so it won't take that long :P )
(its kinda exponential, so it won't take that long :P )
Champ1
May 4, 11:38 PM
What are you a sloth? It sounds like you rarely use your Mac. Updates are pretty far in-between to be that lazy:confused:
It's ridiculous that iOS hasn't already had this enabled - having to crawl back to my Mac to update my phone or iPad is just a total pain....
It's ridiculous that iOS hasn't already had this enabled - having to crawl back to my Mac to update my phone or iPad is just a total pain....
Mitthrawnuruodo
Sep 12, 03:50 PM
It works great, "Dark Side" and "The Wall" play as intended.He-he... I'm testing "The Wall", too... :)
Did the "Gapless Determination" detect your The Wall album or did you, like me, have to set the Gapless Album tag yourself...?
Did the "Gapless Determination" detect your The Wall album or did you, like me, have to set the Gapless Album tag yourself...?
mentholiptus
Apr 13, 05:13 PM
Currently the Mac App Store has no way of offering an upgrade to existing Mac software. I don't see that changing.
I suspect that all these apps will be stripped of their sample media. They're all quite small without them. Perhaps Apple will sell those files separately on their own on DVDs?
Yeah, we'll see. I guess it all depends on what Apple decides, eh? Unless they've condensed 7-9 apps into 1-4 and ditched all the sample media for livetype, soundtrack pro, motion, DVD studio pro, etc then I strongly doubt it'll be an app store exclusive. I can tell you though, our IT staff won't be very fond of having to go through the Mac app store to keep our entire AV dept up and running.
Aperture is still sold in a box at a higher price, and I'm sure all pro apps will be as well for the foreseeable future. FCP and Aperture as stand alone apps are relatively small, and aperture doesn't ship with 7 discs.
I suspect that all these apps will be stripped of their sample media. They're all quite small without them. Perhaps Apple will sell those files separately on their own on DVDs?
Yeah, we'll see. I guess it all depends on what Apple decides, eh? Unless they've condensed 7-9 apps into 1-4 and ditched all the sample media for livetype, soundtrack pro, motion, DVD studio pro, etc then I strongly doubt it'll be an app store exclusive. I can tell you though, our IT staff won't be very fond of having to go through the Mac app store to keep our entire AV dept up and running.
Aperture is still sold in a box at a higher price, and I'm sure all pro apps will be as well for the foreseeable future. FCP and Aperture as stand alone apps are relatively small, and aperture doesn't ship with 7 discs.
tmofee
Mar 20, 03:06 PM
Heh. Those were the days. 2001 where the only forum I frequented was a nirvana one and my small compact music player was a Sony mini-discman. Still have it and works to this day. Have dozens of minidiscs in the cupboard, full of old radio shows i used to listen to. Unlike those old cassettes, they sound fantastic still! :)
StanVA
Mar 14, 07:30 AM
I don't know what its worth, but looking at the Best Buy website I find that about half of the stores in my area (VA) are out of stock of the various models of 15 inch MBP and the 17 inch in on backorder. Is this a sign of a refresh ???
I'm ready to get my first MBP and the cash is burning a hole in my pocket !!
:apple:iPhone 3G
I'm ready to get my first MBP and the cash is burning a hole in my pocket !!
:apple:iPhone 3G
Ivanovitchk
Oct 25, 02:51 AM
@Ivanovitchk
What's your GPU?
Apple 5770 because you can't use regular ATI 5x with DP + DP to mini-DP adapter under Osx or even ATI 5770 Eyefinity 5 (5 mini DP) or 5870 Eyefinity 6 (6 mini DP). The ports are simply not working under Osx although they are in windows.
An other solution would be to use the Atlona AT DP-400 converter and any other framebuffer / injector / Dsdt capable gpu... I went with the apple card because of the small fee gap ( 40$) and also to upgrade my old 8800GT.
What's your GPU?
Apple 5770 because you can't use regular ATI 5x with DP + DP to mini-DP adapter under Osx or even ATI 5770 Eyefinity 5 (5 mini DP) or 5870 Eyefinity 6 (6 mini DP). The ports are simply not working under Osx although they are in windows.
An other solution would be to use the Atlona AT DP-400 converter and any other framebuffer / injector / Dsdt capable gpu... I went with the apple card because of the small fee gap ( 40$) and also to upgrade my old 8800GT.
G4er?
Mar 21, 03:03 PM
Maybe if I send Apple a note saying, "My wife says Apple won't build a xMac" Apple will send me a note saying "Yes we will."
gugy
Nov 27, 12:19 PM
Not of itself no - but imo a remastered collection will sell millions. How many fans, old and new, will shell out again to hear them?
really? I am skeptical.
Unless like I said a whole package with a very attractive price. Hopefully with a bitrate better than 128.
really? I am skeptical.
Unless like I said a whole package with a very attractive price. Hopefully with a bitrate better than 128.
Sydde
Apr 9, 04:38 PM
Also, what about gods other than Jesus, are the good things performed in their name just as "selfless"?
Most of the jesus religions are exclusive (non-eclectic). Good can only come through jesus and his father. Things beyond or apart from them can be neutral or evil, but not good. That which arises from other sources has not been approved by the one true god and/or his son, so it cannot approach good. That which originates from another religion (sometimes even another sect of the same religion) must be bad or evil, because the beliefs that fail to properly recognize the truth of the saviour are corrupt and probably under the influence of the prince of darkness, bringer-of-light.
This attitude is real, persisting in the hearts and minds of the faithful. How intense it is varies from person to person, sect to sect, but I believe a similar sort of indoctrination is common with most of the other exclusive religions. This illustrates why I made the offensive statement on another thread, that believers seem to be functioning under self-imposed intellectual impairment.
Most of the jesus religions are exclusive (non-eclectic). Good can only come through jesus and his father. Things beyond or apart from them can be neutral or evil, but not good. That which arises from other sources has not been approved by the one true god and/or his son, so it cannot approach good. That which originates from another religion (sometimes even another sect of the same religion) must be bad or evil, because the beliefs that fail to properly recognize the truth of the saviour are corrupt and probably under the influence of the prince of darkness, bringer-of-light.
This attitude is real, persisting in the hearts and minds of the faithful. How intense it is varies from person to person, sect to sect, but I believe a similar sort of indoctrination is common with most of the other exclusive religions. This illustrates why I made the offensive statement on another thread, that believers seem to be functioning under self-imposed intellectual impairment.
gnasher729
Nov 1, 07:57 AM
FWIW, 15C = 59F. I've never heard of a processor running that low. Maybe it does, but that sounds really really odd.
The Macbook is never cooler than its environment. So maybe outside in the winter. Just curious if you can use the keyboard while wearing gloves.
The Macbook is never cooler than its environment. So maybe outside in the winter. Just curious if you can use the keyboard while wearing gloves.
LouieSamman
Oct 17, 05:54 PM
The Magic Trackpad rules. Love it. Don't even use the mouse. It seems like you have to move the mouse so far to get it across the screen and with the Magic Trackpad its just gets you around the screen faster.
I guess it's great, except for 1 thing.
Gaming.
I guess it's great, except for 1 thing.
Gaming.
mikeschmeee
Mar 6, 06:20 PM
http://chrismccormack.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v26/p789595326-5.jpg
Where is this?!?!!? Awesome shot!
http://www.robertgravel.ca/Animals/Oiseaux/MG7056-upload/1207750652_2ZMuC-XL.jpg
Amazing! How close where you? what lens are you shooting with?
My photo for today...
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5252/5501494819_983243de4e_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikeschmeee/5501494819/)
Where is this?!?!!? Awesome shot!
http://www.robertgravel.ca/Animals/Oiseaux/MG7056-upload/1207750652_2ZMuC-XL.jpg
Amazing! How close where you? what lens are you shooting with?
My photo for today...
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5252/5501494819_983243de4e_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikeschmeee/5501494819/)
compuwar
Mar 8, 10:24 AM
Its a heavy crop as he was very far. Too far for fill flash to have any effect unfortunatally.
More often than not, you'll still get a catchlight. If it's a normal situation though, it's worth investing in a Better Beamer.
Paul
More often than not, you'll still get a catchlight. If it's a normal situation though, it's worth investing in a Better Beamer.
Paul
Lgreer
Aug 10, 02:30 PM
Did we ever see what was under the covers of the other banners at the WWDC? Was it just pictures of the mac pro?
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