Nipsy
Oct 13, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Source
Good replies, Nipsy. Although you completely misunderstood some of my points addressed some points that i wasn't even talking about and also made some points that i completely disagree with.
I might make a proper reply addressing these tomorrow, if:
A. I have the time.
B. I can be bothered.
Oh and i'm well over 18, have a very high IQ and a masters degree. :) That doesn't make me any more likely to be right or wrong than you, i'm just saying, seeing as you made some delightful comments about 13 and under 18 year olds in your aforementioned post.
If you guys don't mind Apple being behind in hardware, then, quite honestly, stop whining about it.
So many Mac users spend hours a day, talking about Apple and what they're doing wrong, but never take any action. If those who care about Apple being the slowest computers on the market are not going to do something about it, then they should shut up about it.
If you're going to whine about it constantly and then get upset with someone who says it's not good enough, then you're just a stupid hypocrit. I realize that you're happy with the productivity your Mac(s) has brought you, and are incredibly loyal to Apple, as well you should be, but if you're going to complain about it, then at least make some attempt to do something about it. or shut up about it.
Just a quickie:
I'm not whining about anything. I think of Macs as entry level workstations (not as desktops), and as such, I find them cheap, reliable, and speedy.
I'd like more speed (as I do tax my machine), but I'm not known to whine about anything. If you'll notice, my post is very point/counterpoint, and primarily designed to dispel some of the myths proffered from either side of the fence. If you read it carefully, I think you'll see that I'm neither a hypocrite, nor stupid. My spelling and grammar are strong. My arguments and points are logical, and put forth based on data, published and empirical.
Note I was quick to agree that Macs are not the fastest machines...
Secondly, Macs are not the slowest machines on the market. For processing only arguments, the Mac line sits squarely between the top and bottom end Windows machines. For reliability (uptime, TCO), the Mac sits between more mature UNIX distros, and Windows.
As for age, there are a lot of people here in the 12-20 demographic, who agrue with zeal, but without fact. Oddly, it is this demographic which are most likely to buy neon case lights, watercoolers, billet milled aircraft aluminum cases, etc.
No need to take the vertical demographics as an insult!
Furthermore, what action do you propose we comsumers take to speed Apple development?
I would wager that no active posters have high level chip design on their resumes. I would further speculate that few really understand the in-and-outs of a complex gate setup, so I doubt we're going to design it for them.
Should we boycott Apple products? This drains R&D capital from Apple, and forces people to use Windows, certainly not an elegant soultion.
I am open to any suggestion you have as to how I can speed the delivery of a G5 or Power4 Lite.
Lastly, I'm a happy Apple customer, but my loyalty is available. If you can create a better matrix of performance/stability/standards based computing/availabilty of apps/cost/TCO/OS elegance I'm a customer.
Good replies, Nipsy. Although you completely misunderstood some of my points addressed some points that i wasn't even talking about and also made some points that i completely disagree with.
I might make a proper reply addressing these tomorrow, if:
A. I have the time.
B. I can be bothered.
Oh and i'm well over 18, have a very high IQ and a masters degree. :) That doesn't make me any more likely to be right or wrong than you, i'm just saying, seeing as you made some delightful comments about 13 and under 18 year olds in your aforementioned post.
If you guys don't mind Apple being behind in hardware, then, quite honestly, stop whining about it.
So many Mac users spend hours a day, talking about Apple and what they're doing wrong, but never take any action. If those who care about Apple being the slowest computers on the market are not going to do something about it, then they should shut up about it.
If you're going to whine about it constantly and then get upset with someone who says it's not good enough, then you're just a stupid hypocrit. I realize that you're happy with the productivity your Mac(s) has brought you, and are incredibly loyal to Apple, as well you should be, but if you're going to complain about it, then at least make some attempt to do something about it. or shut up about it.
Just a quickie:
I'm not whining about anything. I think of Macs as entry level workstations (not as desktops), and as such, I find them cheap, reliable, and speedy.
I'd like more speed (as I do tax my machine), but I'm not known to whine about anything. If you'll notice, my post is very point/counterpoint, and primarily designed to dispel some of the myths proffered from either side of the fence. If you read it carefully, I think you'll see that I'm neither a hypocrite, nor stupid. My spelling and grammar are strong. My arguments and points are logical, and put forth based on data, published and empirical.
Note I was quick to agree that Macs are not the fastest machines...
Secondly, Macs are not the slowest machines on the market. For processing only arguments, the Mac line sits squarely between the top and bottom end Windows machines. For reliability (uptime, TCO), the Mac sits between more mature UNIX distros, and Windows.
As for age, there are a lot of people here in the 12-20 demographic, who agrue with zeal, but without fact. Oddly, it is this demographic which are most likely to buy neon case lights, watercoolers, billet milled aircraft aluminum cases, etc.
No need to take the vertical demographics as an insult!
Furthermore, what action do you propose we comsumers take to speed Apple development?
I would wager that no active posters have high level chip design on their resumes. I would further speculate that few really understand the in-and-outs of a complex gate setup, so I doubt we're going to design it for them.
Should we boycott Apple products? This drains R&D capital from Apple, and forces people to use Windows, certainly not an elegant soultion.
I am open to any suggestion you have as to how I can speed the delivery of a G5 or Power4 Lite.
Lastly, I'm a happy Apple customer, but my loyalty is available. If you can create a better matrix of performance/stability/standards based computing/availabilty of apps/cost/TCO/OS elegance I'm a customer.
ChazUK
May 5, 09:39 AM
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Small, incremental updates would be good. They are a godsend on Android.
Small, incremental updates would be good. They are a godsend on Android.
revjay
Nov 7, 04:07 PM
You mean rhetorical, as opposed to redundant?
If you're gonna try to use big words, at least act like you know what they mean.
I did intend to use the word redundant instead of that other big word you used (what does that one mean anyway?). :rolleyes:
Perhaps I used the word incorectly, now that I look at my sentence. The feeling I was going for is that there is never a shortage of posters who state and restate the redundantly obvious.
BTW...what was your point? Surely you had something critical or insightful to say about what I wrote about Macs or Apple?
Anyhooo... (I know that is not really a word)
...A MB with new Intel goodies sounds alright to me...I am in the middle of a trip and I borrowed a friends PC notebook to use while travelling on boats and trains and such...I feel much more productive, though, I feel like I have been ignoring people, running the risk of looking like a snob;) .
I'll most surely be adding a new MB after they are upgraded. Apple can take a few more weeks if they wish...I need it to gather the funds anyway.
If you're gonna try to use big words, at least act like you know what they mean.
I did intend to use the word redundant instead of that other big word you used (what does that one mean anyway?). :rolleyes:
Perhaps I used the word incorectly, now that I look at my sentence. The feeling I was going for is that there is never a shortage of posters who state and restate the redundantly obvious.
BTW...what was your point? Surely you had something critical or insightful to say about what I wrote about Macs or Apple?
Anyhooo... (I know that is not really a word)
...A MB with new Intel goodies sounds alright to me...I am in the middle of a trip and I borrowed a friends PC notebook to use while travelling on boats and trains and such...I feel much more productive, though, I feel like I have been ignoring people, running the risk of looking like a snob;) .
I'll most surely be adding a new MB after they are upgraded. Apple can take a few more weeks if they wish...I need it to gather the funds anyway.
yoda13
Nov 6, 11:06 PM
All I want is a real graphics card.
Me too, but I doubt that we will see it....:cool:
Me too, but I doubt that we will see it....:cool:
sierra oscar
Aug 24, 12:22 PM
The BBC link below - seems to suggest it's all batteries including the latest portables.... however it could be a reporter just not knowing the difference between a PB/iBook and MBP etc
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5283424.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5283424.stm
hulugu
Mar 29, 12:02 PM
It's fascinating how quickly the Democrat [sic] party has turned into the party of war... trying to justify it legally and morally at every corner. It's almost as if their anti-war stance for the past 10 years was a complete farce, and was more anti-Bush than anti-war, anti-intervention....
This is utter tripe. You're simply misrepresenting arguments to make yours easier.
Now that Obama is at the helm, core philosophy no longer matters, consistent morality no longer matters, only justifying war and protecting the political future of the first black president.
Seriously, I could make albondigas with this.
...But for some reason, now that he's president you think it's ok for him to switch his views 180 degrees and still are unwilling to admit you agree with Rand Paul even though his position is far more consistent with candidate Obama's. Sounds awfully hypocritical.
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. — Ralph Waldo Emerson
I don't want to be the one to tell you, but Americans hold no allegiance to NATO or to the United Nations. In addition, no treaties or otherwise passed by these two organizations have any legal effect on our sovereign nation. The UN or NATO passing a resolution to engage in military action does not serve as an ALTERNATIVE to a declaration of war by the U.S. congress.
So, you don't understand what the North Atlantic Treaty Organization is and you don't understand how these treaties become US law? I thought you were the Constitutional scholar de riguer.
...He is of the strong opinion that this was a bad idea and that Libya is not vital to U.S. interests. His comment that the 'mid-east' is part of our national interest was an extremely long reach in a pathetic attempt to find some sort of overlap between his position and the administration he works for. I'd say Paul's analysis of Gates' position is much better than any analysis which suggests he thinks the war is justified.
The Mid East is vital to our interests and no serious person should argue otherwise.
This is utter tripe. You're simply misrepresenting arguments to make yours easier.
Now that Obama is at the helm, core philosophy no longer matters, consistent morality no longer matters, only justifying war and protecting the political future of the first black president.
Seriously, I could make albondigas with this.
...But for some reason, now that he's president you think it's ok for him to switch his views 180 degrees and still are unwilling to admit you agree with Rand Paul even though his position is far more consistent with candidate Obama's. Sounds awfully hypocritical.
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. — Ralph Waldo Emerson
I don't want to be the one to tell you, but Americans hold no allegiance to NATO or to the United Nations. In addition, no treaties or otherwise passed by these two organizations have any legal effect on our sovereign nation. The UN or NATO passing a resolution to engage in military action does not serve as an ALTERNATIVE to a declaration of war by the U.S. congress.
So, you don't understand what the North Atlantic Treaty Organization is and you don't understand how these treaties become US law? I thought you were the Constitutional scholar de riguer.
...He is of the strong opinion that this was a bad idea and that Libya is not vital to U.S. interests. His comment that the 'mid-east' is part of our national interest was an extremely long reach in a pathetic attempt to find some sort of overlap between his position and the administration he works for. I'd say Paul's analysis of Gates' position is much better than any analysis which suggests he thinks the war is justified.
The Mid East is vital to our interests and no serious person should argue otherwise.
Ktulu
Aug 3, 08:10 PM
Oh ya... he's something cheesie... this has been on my mind for a while. In january, Steve demoed GarageBand and showed how to make PodCast. He did that fake podcast and said 'Hi this is steve, and this is my Super secret apple PodCast' then he proceded to make jokes about the next iPod... he said the next iPod coming out would have a 10 inch screen and weigh 8 pounds.
Well... Tuesday is 8/10
Remember 2 years ago when Jobs demoed Spotlight... he searched for 'Paris' then searched for iMac. Sure enough... the iMac G5 was released at Paris.
I just thought that was interesting.
Thursday is 8/10
Tuesday is 8/8 :rolleyes:
Well... Tuesday is 8/10
Remember 2 years ago when Jobs demoed Spotlight... he searched for 'Paris' then searched for iMac. Sure enough... the iMac G5 was released at Paris.
I just thought that was interesting.
Thursday is 8/10
Tuesday is 8/8 :rolleyes:
iJohnHenry
Apr 11, 04:17 PM
You are not necessarily talking about motivation which is either conscious or unconscious. The objection to this idea of man - and other species, too - being altruistic without a licence from El is highly objectionable itself. Is it that you do not want to allow independent action? Where then is free will? Where are other faiths? Does the giving of alms by Muslims count for nothing, too?
No, no, no.
All good deeds spring from God, because He loves us.
Atheists/agnostics that do good, are just lying about their place with God.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/MouseMeat/Smilies/f16.gif
No, no, no.
All good deeds spring from God, because He loves us.
Atheists/agnostics that do good, are just lying about their place with God.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/MouseMeat/Smilies/f16.gif
OllyW
Mar 19, 05:46 AM
Nice library, but do you need it with you at all times? I used to think I did, but I've found that I don't need 11,000 songs with me all the time. I have songs in my library I haven't listened to in years. Another reason why the iPod classic is dying, Apple, and iTunes, have made it very easy to manage the music you actually listen to, and add it to your iPod.
Yes, I like to have it all with me.
I listen to music for 9 hours a day when I'm at work and used to get frustrated with my old 60GB iPod photo because I only had half of my collection with me. I've had my 160GB classic since 2007 and I'm now down to my last 5GB of free space.
A new 220GB classic in September would be perfect timing. :D
Yes, I like to have it all with me.
I listen to music for 9 hours a day when I'm at work and used to get frustrated with my old 60GB iPod photo because I only had half of my collection with me. I've had my 160GB classic since 2007 and I'm now down to my last 5GB of free space.
A new 220GB classic in September would be perfect timing. :D
dmw007
Nov 8, 08:14 AM
It is pretty pathetic that Apple still even sells a computer with a combo drive tho.... that really should be standard even in the $1099 model these days.
Other computer companies, such as Dell, still sell machines with only a combo drive, so it is not like Apple is so far behind the times. :rolleyes: :)
Other computer companies, such as Dell, still sell machines with only a combo drive, so it is not like Apple is so far behind the times. :rolleyes: :)
djkny
Nov 8, 08:26 AM
So what would you do with this edu discount option, now that everything's been updated to the C2D line:
13.3" MBP (White - mid level) for $1199
13.3 MBP (Black) for $1399
OR
15.4 MBP for $1799.
What's the sweet spot -- if you're doing all the basics plus occasional video editing of short commercial projects and the periodic photoshop use?
13.3" MBP (White - mid level) for $1199
13.3 MBP (Black) for $1399
OR
15.4 MBP for $1799.
What's the sweet spot -- if you're doing all the basics plus occasional video editing of short commercial projects and the periodic photoshop use?
webman2k
Apr 12, 08:53 AM
I used to pirate then stopped. A responsible businessman should and in some cases has to when they use their software and hardware for legitimate purposes. It's a major tax write off at least.
I was still in college when I was using CS1 and CS2. Either way, I eventually grew up and purchased the EDU version of the software with my own cash. And at that time by the way, hacked versions were far more unstable. You couldn't update them, you had to run patching scripts ever so often, plugins wouldn't work or would crash the system etc. It was just better to have the legit copy and keep it moving instead of spending time troubleshooting your scripts.
I don't know how it is now, but I know that it was that way up until CS3 based on the students at my job that still pirated software.
I am sure said person (who doesn't work in the design field) would want to take up design and production as a part-time/tennis shoe money job to support their family yet doesn't have the money to get CS so they just steal it??????? :confused:
This person wouldn't want to get a part-time job that doesn't need him to steal? Or he/she could just claim he's/she's a student/educator and pay for the EDU version . . . at the VERY LEAST.
Read the comment thoroughly. ANYONE can learn the apps, any goofball like you stated yourself in the bold. I didn't put any time restraint on this goofball. But I did mention that it take far more to be a good designer.
Yes it is IMHO. Far better than just taking it. At least you are paying something for someone's work. Using your student ID at the movies, camera shop for film and agitator, Apple store, etc is far better than just stealing from them out right.
No hard feelings bro.
All good points. Let's leave it as different people in different circumstances. For the record, it's not right for anyone to pirate software. However, there are some people, in some situations, that feel that doing the right thing at the time isn't always the best thing. Definitely no hard feelings - just discussion.
I was still in college when I was using CS1 and CS2. Either way, I eventually grew up and purchased the EDU version of the software with my own cash. And at that time by the way, hacked versions were far more unstable. You couldn't update them, you had to run patching scripts ever so often, plugins wouldn't work or would crash the system etc. It was just better to have the legit copy and keep it moving instead of spending time troubleshooting your scripts.
I don't know how it is now, but I know that it was that way up until CS3 based on the students at my job that still pirated software.
I am sure said person (who doesn't work in the design field) would want to take up design and production as a part-time/tennis shoe money job to support their family yet doesn't have the money to get CS so they just steal it??????? :confused:
This person wouldn't want to get a part-time job that doesn't need him to steal? Or he/she could just claim he's/she's a student/educator and pay for the EDU version . . . at the VERY LEAST.
Read the comment thoroughly. ANYONE can learn the apps, any goofball like you stated yourself in the bold. I didn't put any time restraint on this goofball. But I did mention that it take far more to be a good designer.
Yes it is IMHO. Far better than just taking it. At least you are paying something for someone's work. Using your student ID at the movies, camera shop for film and agitator, Apple store, etc is far better than just stealing from them out right.
No hard feelings bro.
All good points. Let's leave it as different people in different circumstances. For the record, it's not right for anyone to pirate software. However, there are some people, in some situations, that feel that doing the right thing at the time isn't always the best thing. Definitely no hard feelings - just discussion.
dime21
Mar 29, 02:32 PM
A well written statement on Obama's illegal war.
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NintendoFan
Nov 24, 06:58 AM
When you study harmony, who are you going to study the most? Bach
When you study Music History of the Baroque era, who is going to take the biggest part of the semester? Bach.
When you study Harpsichord or organ, who is the biggest composer you are going to study? Bach. Even when you do piano, you are going to study Bach at leas at the beginning before your Liszt and Rachmaninoff.
I know they teach popular music at universities. The course on popular is music is optional. My wife took a course on popular music at Montreal university. They studied the Beatles for about 20 minutes of the whole semester. I did my bachelor's in the USA, my master's in Paris, DEM in Paris and my doctorate at Montreal. I know 20 is minutes is the most the Beatles are going to get. That's how important they are to music history. Perhaps, they are important in popular music.
You think you know about music, but your knowledge is very limited. It is just plain ridiculous to compare them to Bach.
I never said nobody studies Bach when studying music. Of course they do. Even The Beatles did. But you were implying that no one studies The Beatles period, which just isn't true. And as a side note, there is no way to study Music History of the Baroque era in relation to The Beatles considering they weren't alive in the Baroque era. :)
And aren't you just a bit arrogant to assume to know my musical background? Please come off your high horse. You may not like The Beatles but to say they contribute/contributed nothing to music is ridiculous.
When you study Music History of the Baroque era, who is going to take the biggest part of the semester? Bach.
When you study Harpsichord or organ, who is the biggest composer you are going to study? Bach. Even when you do piano, you are going to study Bach at leas at the beginning before your Liszt and Rachmaninoff.
I know they teach popular music at universities. The course on popular is music is optional. My wife took a course on popular music at Montreal university. They studied the Beatles for about 20 minutes of the whole semester. I did my bachelor's in the USA, my master's in Paris, DEM in Paris and my doctorate at Montreal. I know 20 is minutes is the most the Beatles are going to get. That's how important they are to music history. Perhaps, they are important in popular music.
You think you know about music, but your knowledge is very limited. It is just plain ridiculous to compare them to Bach.
I never said nobody studies Bach when studying music. Of course they do. Even The Beatles did. But you were implying that no one studies The Beatles period, which just isn't true. And as a side note, there is no way to study Music History of the Baroque era in relation to The Beatles considering they weren't alive in the Baroque era. :)
And aren't you just a bit arrogant to assume to know my musical background? Please come off your high horse. You may not like The Beatles but to say they contribute/contributed nothing to music is ridiculous.
pyramid6
Aug 8, 11:46 AM
It's a http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=gb&lc=en&ver=4000&template=pp1_loader&php=PHP1_10297&zone=pp&lm=pp1&pid=10297.
:(
:(
hazza.jockel
Sep 28, 09:13 PM
I was excited to see that blood gulch had be remade but after playing it a few times i have to say its one of my least favourite maps. There are too many vehicles and not enough vehicles killing weapons. Usually one person will get in a tank and if he is able to take out the other tank theres no real way to stop them. Particularly if they just sit up the back taking long shots leaving you no real chance to get close. Bungie needed to put a spartan laser on the map somewhere.
blow45
Mar 22, 10:40 PM
lol funny story. for all the ***** wiped out there there's still hope.
Casiotone
Mar 19, 02:05 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3638/4564840913_333f5c4199.jpg
The current "iPod" app icon on the iPhone. Enough said.
The current "iPod" app icon on the iPhone. Enough said.
artifex
Sep 12, 05:37 PM
If any of you have bought albums off iTunes with interact booklets I have discovered a problem - they don't work!!! - It plays it for a second as if it is a tune - it doesn't open it. arrgggh.
My U2 booklet has been broken since a week or so after I downloaded the set, which was the first week they had the set available after delivering my U2 iPod (b&w of course).
Apple won't fix it, either. Every time I ask them to, they can't understand what I'm talking about, and offer to let me redownload the whole music set "just this once." But the booklet isn't ever re-sent. :(
My U2 booklet has been broken since a week or so after I downloaded the set, which was the first week they had the set available after delivering my U2 iPod (b&w of course).
Apple won't fix it, either. Every time I ask them to, they can't understand what I'm talking about, and offer to let me redownload the whole music set "just this once." But the booklet isn't ever re-sent. :(
Don Kosak
May 4, 11:27 PM
man i wish 3D would just disappear...
Cover one eye?
Cover one eye?
6-0 Prolene
Mar 11, 10:08 PM
"Check and mate?"
http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/lmao-new.jpg
http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/lmao-new.jpg
asterizk
Sep 6, 09:29 AM
Yeah, Essential Mixes I can handle uploading ya, but it would take forever to upload you HD movies - best that you be downloading those on your own... :p ;) :D
Oh come on! :D Heee.... I was thinking the 1080i/p resolution might be a hint of what's to come on the 12th :) :cool:
Oh come on! :D Heee.... I was thinking the 1080i/p resolution might be a hint of what's to come on the 12th :) :cool:
h00ligan
Nov 7, 07:06 PM
And don't have a single 12/13in model in existence? I don't think so.
Some people want small form factors. It's a shame Apple thinks form factors and power are in a 1-to-1 relationship. Some people want powerful laptops with smaller displays (12in PB is no more) or less powerful laptops with larger displays (15in iBook is no more). Hopefully Apple learns to stop limiting themselves in this way. Think differently differently.
wow , talk about completely missing a joke... wow.
Some people want small form factors. It's a shame Apple thinks form factors and power are in a 1-to-1 relationship. Some people want powerful laptops with smaller displays (12in PB is no more) or less powerful laptops with larger displays (15in iBook is no more). Hopefully Apple learns to stop limiting themselves in this way. Think differently differently.
wow , talk about completely missing a joke... wow.
zim
Jul 22, 09:48 PM
this would be fantastic.. ebooks and i would also like to see pdf added to the list!! the current text feature is nice but adding pdf abilities would be better :)
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